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Mars Challenger V1.0 => Mars General Discussion => Topic started by: outzoner on May 31, 2011, 01:48:38 PM

Title: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on May 31, 2011, 01:48:38 PM
i got some time, a cup of black tea and i am thinking about human nature...how will humans behave in a small colony?

what if there is violence... murder....

a few people far out....no police, no help at all....


what do you think???
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: Hyper on May 31, 2011, 02:07:36 PM
That has come up several times. How do you contain them, what do you do with them. Always been an interesting question.
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: Jeno on May 31, 2011, 02:16:10 PM
Indeed an interesting question!

if a small colony is located on Earth somewhere people will get violent sooner or later, and the colony has a good chance to be destroyed by its members...

But if this colony is on an other planet, in our case Mars :) , than imo the very hostile environment would forge the colonists into an unbreakable alliance...but the result is highly depend on the socialization of the members
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: Snowpig on June 01, 2011, 05:02:05 AM
Usually astronaut candidates undergo very harsh psychic assessment. If the shrinks find any signs for psychic instability, the candidate is rejected - no matter how good he excels in other fields.
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on June 01, 2011, 05:28:56 AM
 ::).....true....i forgot about that.  otherwise the missions of the present a in earth orbit....that means near to home.

mars is something different.....

dont you think the real nature of humans will come back in that isolated aera?
you see it in every war....
look at the war at balcan states.   suddenly people that were neighbours or even friends turned into deadly enemies. they took everything, they raped the women and girls, killed children....
not a few men...they were many...

i think that is the human nature....we are still like animals...we still have these instincts.
how we behave in our "normal life",  is perhaps not what we are.

just think for yourself. you got 20 minutes to do everything....just what you want...nobody i observing you,  nobody will judge you.   what would you do??? 
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: Snowpig on June 01, 2011, 08:01:42 AM
take a look at from the other side: On Mars there are no prisons. You kill someone and the others let you breath some martian air (without EVA) ;)


Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: thedubman on June 01, 2011, 04:35:34 PM
On missions like in MCC I wouldnt expect a crew to go to mental on each other, generally becouse they would have so much to do to stay alive.. as they got more settled and 'safe' things could get outta hand..

scary stuff really, I could imagine being on Mars for any length of time to be very stressfull to the mind..



Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on June 01, 2011, 07:00:26 PM
yes.........its scary!

i heard a lot voice like :" a oneway mission? okay- i volunteer..."
but this is a big step......much bigger then anyone of us know......that means for ever...you wont come back...

okay- we are all so focused on the adventure...working with hightech....being explorers...
but in fact we are just one thing:   we are in our own prison.

and we are not talking about 26 days and returning into NASAs arms....





by the way....its nice to see that this all is more then just bits and bytes....here is the phylosophic part of our mission to mars.  (sorry about the typing!)
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: Snowpig on June 03, 2011, 04:59:54 PM
I think the biggest problem will be boredom (at least in the game). Imagine, I'm sitting here with Jeno and Fish for about 2 hours just waiting for the scrubber finish the athmosphere. In that time following happend:

- several time the separator was turned off by accident (no H2 -> no O2 for scrubber)
- planters have been watered and setup with fertilizers twice(!)
- HUB Oxygen was added, when oxygen level was already at 20%
- fish was already put into the fishtank (at 75% CO2)

...give them another hour and they disable the whole base  ;D
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on June 03, 2011, 05:12:19 PM
 ;D  that sounds like surrender.......          well...i only had a few minutes there....then i got bluescreen again and my f***ing machine died......

after one hour of complete cleaning i am on again....    i will have a look if our cohab is still intact
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: thedubman on June 03, 2011, 05:33:25 PM
The more I read of this, the more it sounds like a 'fun' mission in game.  Mission Madman- I colonist has gone crazy, tried to break everything in the HAB, wiped out all plants/fish, destroyed food etc, left equipment stranded all over the place, colonist then decompressed HAB and went outside with no EVA suit.. can we sort the mess out?
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on June 04, 2011, 02:51:26 PM
....i just wanted to start a discussion.....this is NOT a howto   to get your teammates mad......
 :D
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: thedubman on June 04, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
lol no thats not the intention, I was thinking more along the lines of finding a half-running HAB while on survey etc, and the backstory is the colonists there had a problem with a colonist with a case of Mars Madness- as a backstory.
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on June 05, 2011, 01:35:17 PM
a backstory???     its sounds abit like marco for me... ;D ;D


yes.....really a nice idea!!!
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: ApolloWalker on June 08, 2011, 10:58:05 PM
This is my favorite second question (first is why go in the first place :-X).

For humans to behave in a friendly manner, they would have to be a small,close knitt group; say six-to-eight.
Preferably, they would have to be international, so when other groups arrive, the national boarders would not be so strong.
After, say two months, the group would be a "well oiled machine". Relationships would surface. Strife would start.
The colony would grow. Stuff like that, I guess.
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on June 09, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
This is my favorite second question (first is why go in the first place :-X).



why????    because we can do it.....because its an adventure....this is human nature too!!
stay on your couch is not what you want to do....you only have to do it,because of...(1000s of reasons)

but hey- you can leave the planet, go to mars....you stay there....and you know, you are one of the first men there....not only mr.anybody,living at somewhere,being forgotten....you know what i mean..
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: Hyper on June 10, 2011, 12:40:30 AM
If I could go tomorrow, knowing I would never return, I would do it without hesitaiton...
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: profit004 on June 10, 2011, 12:02:49 PM
I wouldn't unless  there was at least a rough parity of men and women. =p
Title: Re: humans nature
Post by: outzoner on June 13, 2011, 06:31:40 AM
If I could go tomorrow, knowing I would never return, I would do it without hesitaiton...



please check out that there is a seat for me too, you wont be alone there,i promise!!! ;)


did anybody watch the AVATAR movie?   do you remember how you felt after the movie ended and you found yourself back into your regulated,boring and grey world?
its still in us......the nature to be an explorer, to do something special.
i just fed up with "latte marciato"  or "wellness-products".....i need a tent, a place near a lake that nice and quiet, a campfire and a coffee an old cup....all that what is so normal in your life, it takes you away from yourself.

yes...i enjoy to ride a motobike with over 300 km/h on a german highway (its allowed here!!)
.....but i had more fun as i had my first hour on the back on a horse, riding into a forrest on my own.
it is a long time ago-but i still remember it.

so the insinct to explore a new planet, to go there and maybe nether return...that is your instict. the only thing to decide is what is heavier....your instict or your fear....