HyperKat Support and Tester Forum

i have it (0.42 playable demo) and im plaing. i prefere this, it is more similar to challenger than frontier (i have the two games in my steam library) and prefere this way. In frontier there is less player freedom.
the game mechanics are realistic and "tecnical"...i like that.
I wanted this first demo game to be part of Challenger and that is what I ponder now. After you establish this colony then you proceed to make the hab and units that appear in challenger and have it 2 player.
just a question why u dont give the possibilty to store somewere the food made by algae (first pod food product)?
Yes I can do that. The first algae unit was a scientific test to see if it was possible to grow algae. Wasn't intended to be a food source after you establish a farm to grow real food. Algae would be important scientifically for plastics, meds etc so I didn't spend much time on the food angle
and second….only 4 slots for the rover is a bit...low capable. maybe will be better to put a weight llimit or cubic meter limit than a slot limit. but i don t know if it is tecnically possible.
Yes I can add 100 slots in there, kept it to 4 to force user to make decisions helps gamify the action. If you can carry everything in the rover there would be no need to worry about fuel, damage, player eva ... One long trip around the zone and the rover would have minimal use.
i play a lot of space colonization games...stationeers...kerbal….Osiris new dow...planet base...astroneer...take on mars.. BUT your game serie have one of the best realistic approac..so if u continue to develop it… (maybe some little grapic impruvement…just a bit) it will be really one of the best games that people loving colonization, will find on steam!
i hope u could understand what i wrote...and sorry for my poor english.
I apply effort for this game equal to people interested in playing it. Do you think people that play these other games would come here and try this one? I have about 10 loyal players and this is a major time sink for me to code. Can you get others to come have a look?

What about some multiplay cooperative testing this time?
But I'm quite far away from USA, and have free time around 01 to 03 AM and 00 to 05 PM at EST.

I will be working on this in due time. I want to integrate this code with Mars Challenger which does have the code for multiplayer. Problem is 2 different engines with 2 different types of art... one mess at a time.

Uh, I dud mismath with old alpha with such option this time.

Pardon my absence. I've been feeling a little bit burnt out. If you have something that needs testing, I'll give it a look. Otherwise, I'll be happy to take some time off.

As for features. I don't think we really need the ability to sit down on a chair or lie down on a bed. I wouldn't miss them if you decide to remove them. I think its enough that they are there. Make the place look like you can actually live there on Mars. The players probably don't want it to be too realistic and spend 10 or 20 minutes sleeping, doing nothing.

I'm having second thoughts about the toilet. In other versions of the game (Challenger and Frontier), human waste is used to make fertilizer. I would like to have features be consistent between the different versions. So I'm thinking that maybe there needs to be some way to bring the waste from to the farm module so it could be used as an ingredient in making fertilizer.

As for plastic, maybe you should mix algae with plant waste instead of an unprocessed plant. Make plant waste to be a thing you can remove from the farm module so you could bring it over to the fabrication module and make plastic with it.
I understand burnout and time off. I have been a bit sick lately myself.
Not sure the toilet would serve much purpose. Remember this game in the story line is first contact scenario. We don't plan on being there long. The whole purpose is:
1 find water
2 prove you can grow food
3 extract in minerals refine them and have the ability to manufacture at least repair parts.
Once this is proven, then Frontier is viable and at that point we would bring more capability.

I can do the same with the water seperator.

I have a graphic bug,  there are 2 black lines around the char, both are squared, first one is about 10m's around the char the next is a bout 30m's.   When I walk around they move with me.   Quessing they are the char activation bars for the vortex as the ground graphics improve. Also weather, rads are at .02 rads, .80 pressure steady, no winds at all.    temp is working 034 to -27.   But no change in rads or atmos pressure.  This is external only, internal is steady .01 rads + 12 pressure

Seats up stairs.  There are two chairs upstairs, if you sit in the chair facing the elevator, then stand up you will fall through the floor and lose health lol.  If you sit in the seat facing the bed, (sitting and stand from bed is working fine.), you will be sitting in the seat facing the elevator every time, never facing the bed.   You can also stand up and not fall through the floor as long as you sit in the seat facing the bed.    But sit in the seat facing the elevator, then stand up you will fall through the floor every time.   Starting chapter 2

Seats upstairs in the farm hab

seat looking at food and water dispenser you cannot get out of, no message on screen (Done resting).  Must leave game to get out of seat.  Also you also get cold damage while sitting in this seat.   Same as hab if you click on the seat facing the bed you still end up back in the seat facing the food water dispensers.

The only purpose for the seat was for landing effect. They were not intended to be used again since it served no purpose. So I either make them a one shot meaning once you stand up they can't be interacted with or I take the time to make them usable. What do you guys think ?
Depending on your time, I would keep them and use the seats.   For now put them as 1 time use.    Thinking they could be used for accessing the onboard PC to check on what to do.  I sit while waiting for the Rads to go down, for now I use the bed.

The separator for the hab module appears to handle water filtering correctly now. The slider works and no water mysteriously disappears when the tank is filled to the max. Unfortunately, when the tank is full and the slider returns to zero, it still shows the number the filter was on before. So if it was at 0.5, the slider will be moved to 0, but it'll still say 0.5.
Fixed

The separator for the farm module doesn't appear to have changed at all. The water slider gives wrong numbers for filter rates of 0.1 to 0.4 (such as 0.07 when it should have done 0.10). Filling the tank up to full still results in lost water. Its like the 2 separators don't share code at all.
Fixed