humans nature

[outzoner]

i got some time, a cup of black tea and i am thinking about human nature...how will humans behave in a small colony?

what if there is violence... murder....

a few people far out....no police, no help at all....


what do you think???

[Hyper]

That has come up several times. How do you contain them, what do you do with them. Always been an interesting question.

[Jeno]

Indeed an interesting question!

if a small colony is located on Earth somewhere people will get violent sooner or later, and the colony has a good chance to be destroyed by its members...

But if this colony is on an other planet, in our case Mars , than imo the very hostile environment would forge the colonists into an unbreakable alliance...but the result is highly depend on the socialization of the members

[Snowpig]

Usually astronaut candidates undergo very harsh psychic assessment. If the shrinks find any signs for psychic instability, the candidate is rejected - no matter how good he excels in other fields.

[outzoner]

 .....true....i forgot about that.  otherwise the missions of the present a in earth orbit....that means near to home.

mars is something different.....

dont you think the real nature of humans will come back in that isolated aera?
you see it in every war....
look at the war at balcan states.   suddenly people that were neighbours or even friends turned into deadly enemies. they took everything, they raped the women and girls, killed children....
not a few men...they were many...

i think that is the human nature....we are still like animals...we still have these instincts.
how we behave in our "normal life",  is perhaps not what we are.

just think for yourself. you got 20 minutes to do everything....just what you want...nobody i observing you,  nobody will judge you.   what would you do??? 

[Snowpig]

take a look at from the other side: On Mars there are no prisons. You kill someone and the others let you breath some martian air (without EVA)

[thedubman]

On missions like in MCC I wouldnt expect a crew to go to mental on each other, generally becouse they would have so much to do to stay alive.. as they got more settled and 'safe' things could get outta hand..

scary stuff really, I could imagine being on Mars for any length of time to be very stressfull to the mind..

[outzoner]

yes.........its scary!

i heard a lot voice like :" a oneway mission? okay- i volunteer..."
but this is a big step......much bigger then anyone of us know......that means for ever...you wont come back...

okay- we are all so focused on the adventure...working with hightech....being explorers...
but in fact we are just one thing:   we are in our own prison.

and we are not talking about 26 days and returning into NASAs arms....





by the way....its nice to see that this all is more then just bits and bytes....here is the phylosophic part of our mission to mars.  (sorry about the typing!)

[Snowpig]

I think the biggest problem will be boredom (at least in the game). Imagine, I'm sitting here with Jeno and Fish for about 2 hours just waiting for the scrubber finish the athmosphere. In that time following happend:

- several time the separator was turned off by accident (no H2 -> no O2 for scrubber)
- planters have been watered and setup with fertilizers twice(!)
- HUB Oxygen was added, when oxygen level was already at 20%
- fish was already put into the fishtank (at 75% CO2)

...give them another hour and they disable the whole base  

[outzoner]

   that sounds like surrender.......          well...i only had a few minutes there....then i got bluescreen again and my f***ing machine died......

after one hour of complete cleaning i am on again....    i will have a look if our cohab is still intact

[thedubman]

The more I read of this, the more it sounds like a 'fun' mission in game.  Mission Madman- I colonist has gone crazy, tried to break everything in the HAB, wiped out all plants/fish, destroyed food etc, left equipment stranded all over the place, colonist then decompressed HAB and went outside with no EVA suit.. can we sort the mess out?

[outzoner]

....i just wanted to start a discussion.....this is NOT a howto   to get your teammates mad......
 

[thedubman]

lol no thats not the intention, I was thinking more along the lines of finding a half-running HAB while on survey etc, and the backstory is the colonists there had a problem with a colonist with a case of Mars Madness- as a backstory.

[outzoner]

a backstory???     its sounds abit like marco for me...


yes.....really a nice idea!!!

[ApolloWalker]

This is my favorite second question (first is why go in the first place ).

For humans to behave in a friendly manner, they would have to be a small,close knitt group; say six-to-eight.
Preferably, they would have to be international, so when other groups arrive, the national boarders would not be so strong.
After, say two months, the group would be a "well oiled machine". Relationships would surface. Strife would start.
The colony would grow. Stuff like that, I guess.